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Blockchain technology is about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity, from health care to our Internet of Things devices. In this podcast, host Laura Shin talks with industry pioneers across tech, financial services, health care, government and other sectors about how the blockchain and cryptocurrency will open up new opportunities for incumbents, startups and everyday people to interact more efficiently, directly and globally.

Jun 23, 2020

Chamath Palihapitiya, the CEO of Social Capital and chairman of Virgin Galactic, talks about a wide range of issues, including Bitcoin, COVID, civil unrest, and broad economic trends and forecasts. We discuss:

  • Whether his economic forecasts have shifted throughout COVID
  • Why he believes a debt crisis will occur
  • How he views the success of BTC as a hedge against the ruling class
  • How the economic pendulum will swing back toward consumers
  • Why he doesn't mind if big corporations and hedge funds get wiped out
  • Whether he subscribes to the thesis that Bitcoin is uncorrelated 
  • Why the pandemic has not spurred institutional adoption of crypto
  • Why he sees no merit in Ethereum
  • How the economy will become more decentralized in the future and whether blockchain will be a part of it 
  • Why he prefers SPACs over ICOs
  • Why he started capital as a service 
  • Why he believes the government should bust up large corporations

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Chamath Palihapitiya:

Social Capital:

Turmoil at Social Capital:

2019 interview with Kara Swisher:

Chamath on Recode Decode in 2020:

Fed buying up to $250 billion in individual corporate bonds:

CNBC interview where he says Bitcoin is an uncorrelated hedge:


China’s blockchain efforts:

Capital as a service:

2019 investor letter:

At Stanford GSB: