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Blockchain technology is about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity, from health care to our Internet of Things devices. In this podcast, host Laura Shin talks with industry pioneers across tech, financial services, health care, government and other sectors about how the blockchain and cryptocurrency will open up new opportunities for incumbents, startups and everyday people to interact more efficiently, directly and globally.

Aug 7, 2018

Roham Gharegozlou, CEO of Dapper Labs, the company behind CryptoKitties, and Benny Giang, Dapper Labs’ head of Asia, describe how employees at venture studio AxiomZen came up with the idea for CryptoKitties, what problems it exposed in crypto (beyond scaling!), and how CryptoKitties can teach people the value of decentralization. They also defend the $140,000 price tag on one kitty, explain how they plan to grow from the current 300 users per day that the blockchain is logging, and surmise that if it weren't for user experience issues, CryptoKitties could have been 100 times bigger. Plus, they talk about the Kittyverse.

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The $140,000 CryptoKitty:

Fundraising news:

CryptoKitties on HTC's new phone:

Listen to previous episodes of Unchained with these CryptoKitties investors:

Chris Dixon:

Naval Ravikant:

Bill Tai:

William Mougayar:

"Developers all the way down" -- Unchained episode with Meltem Demirors and Jill Carlson:

Listen to my previous interview with Arianna Simpson on Unconfirmed about CryptoKitties: