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Blockchain technology is about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity, from health care to our Internet of Things devices. In this podcast, host Laura Shin talks with industry pioneers across tech, financial services, health care, government and other sectors about how the blockchain and cryptocurrency will open up new opportunities for incumbents, startups and everyday people to interact more efficiently, directly and globally.

Oct 13, 2020

Hester Peirce, AKA “Crypto Mom,” was just confirmed to a second term as SEC Commissioner of the Securities Exchange Commission in August. In this episode, she talks about:

  • the reasons for her dissent in the Unikrn Settlement and what she believes would have been a proper penalty
  • the current status of her token safe harbor proposal
  • her thoughts on fair launch projects as opposed to traditional VC-backed tokens
  • her view on how the SEC should view airdrops
  • her thoughts on whether existing securities laws could be tweaked as opposed to implementing a safe harbor
  • whether she thinks DeFi governance tokens should be considered securities
  • her thoughts on DeFi playing its own regulatory role
  • her thoughts on the Securities Clarity Act introduced in Congress
  • the chances of a Bitcoin ETF being approved by the SEC in the future
  • the charges against BitMEX and the effect it may have on the industry in general
  • stablecoins, and how they might raise securities issues
  • and whether she thinks that all securities could one day be tokenized

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Episode links: 

Hester Peirce:



Her dissent on the Unikrn settelement:


Unconfirmed interview on her safe harbor proposal:

Her token safe harbor proposal:


Unchained interview with Cmr. Peirce:


Proposal in The Block on ways to amend existing securities law instead of issuing a token safe harbor:


Is UNI a security:


FCA banning crypto derivatives and ETNs:


Securities Clarity Act:


Statement on ATS’s:


SEC chairman Jay Clayton says all stocks could be tokenized: